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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 339684, member: 19"] Our non conference may be tough, but is there a weaker schedule among those in a conference? People don't look at the schedule overall, they look at non conference and say "SU is tougher than anyone". That doesn't account for the fact that basically every team in the other 5 big boy conference has a tougher schedule top to bottom because of who they have to play in conference. Only finding 5 wins has a lot more to do with us than it does who we're forced to play. Maybe we go 1-6 in conference again, but I think it should be pretty clear that it would not represent progress in Year 4. GRob could go 1-6 in conference. Having 40 more yards per game on offense and giving up 30 less yards, but keeping the same record wouldn't make me feel any better. Minimum expectation has to be a 13 game season. [/QUOTE]