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Message: [QUOTE="storange, post: 808820, member: 171"] they did although they were lucky and had some big breaks to get there, and before that had several mediocre seasons. ND is a little different and they are part of the discrepancy on the star ratings. thay have such a vast following anybody they recruit is going to jump a star because ND fans will use their service if ND is rated high. Not saying ND does not get highly recruited players but the tail wags the dog in recruiting rankings in some cases. [/QUOTE]