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Message: [QUOTE="hungrychuck, post: 3276427, member: 389"] A couple of problems here. I can't agree with the Moten point. Considering his admittedly modest billing coming in and less than elite athleticism, Lawrence was a completely plug-and-play star as a freshman from the moment he stepped on the court. Incredibly instinctual player from his arrival and that had little to do with JB. I think his development here was more Moten than Boeheim. Second, as a high-level D1 college basketball coach, it doesn't work to say "hey I can't recruit very well but I coach up the kids I'm able to get." It's your job to get better kids. If you can't do that, it takes away from your standing as a coach. (And to be fair, by the same token, JB gets full credit for pulling in a kid like Moten). Obviously JB is a Hall of Fame coach and it's really hard to argue that he's been underrated. [/QUOTE]