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[QUOTE="CorduroyG, post: 1738238, member: 1011"]
lol so the kobe haters go from "he cant win without shaq" to "he cant win without a hof big"

gimme a break. you know how many playoff series pau gasol has won without playing with kobe? ONE!!!!! lets not act like hes on the level of a shaq or kareem or hakeem or duncan. the '08 lakers had the best record in league before bynum got hurt and they traded for gasol so its not like he completely changed that team around.

kobe was the best player on the planet in the mid 2000s, he should have won at least 2 more mvps but he played on bad teams so they gave it to nash twice. 2006 he averaged 35 5 and 5 and made the playoffs in stacked west and almost beat the 1 seed suns in 1st round with smush parker and kwame brown and brian cook, come on.

shaq titles without kobe - 1
kobe titles without shaq - 2

shaq was the best player on the 3peat teams but kobe was very close to his equal, he was much more than a "sidekick". he had the ball in his hands in crunch time during that run, not shaq. 2001 he averaged 29 6 and 5 in regular season and 29 7 and 6 in playoffs.

and to the guy that would take chris paul, dirk, steph curry, and wade over kobe thats laughable. karl malone too. kobe was a killer.
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