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Message: [QUOTE="HastingsCuse, post: 1739308, member: 301"] I must be real old. I have read a 5 page thread about all time great players and all time great Lakers and nobody has mentioned Elgin Baylor. Although I'm too young to remember his earlier years he was the first in the Dr J/ MJ skill set. If modern methods of knee surgery and the 3 point line had been around in the 60s who knows what stats he would have. Kobe scored 60 when no one played defense Elgin Baylor scored 61 in an NBA final game against the Celtics with Bill Russell. Google him! (Yes I know he was recognized in the other Lakers thread. I left off Wilt because he with the Lakers for less than half his career.) My all time greatest Lakers in order: Kareem Magic Baylor West Kobe [/QUOTE]