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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeDW, post: 1768804, member: 2458"] People get too caught up in going up or down sometimes. The point is to get into the league and stay there. No way to prove it, but I don't think John Wallace and Hakim Warrick would have lasted as long in the league as they did if they had jumped early. They developed their games greatly in their time at SU. Young Wallace had no outside jumper and wouldnt have ever seen the floor in the NBA. He might have been out of the league by year 2. By the time he got there he could shoot and his scoring got him on the court, especially in year 2 where Toronto needed his scoring. [/QUOTE]