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Message: [QUOTE="AZOrange, post: 2007027, member: 278"] Look I'm probably one of the biggest JB defenders in here but we are not in a good place. The downturn on offense has been happening for some time (at least since 2012). Thankfully we overcame that with tremendous defense even though last year that started to slip also. This year both are abysmal. Recruiting has hit an odd cycle, if not for Battle reconsidering it would look a lot more bleak. Thompson was a nice get but we're short on good players and I think the staff has whiffed on some evals for guys we passed on (see, Murray) and guys we have that can't play (see Joseph, Chukwu). The caliber is just not where it was from late 2000s through 2013 or so. But my biggest issue is what happened tonight. The team quit. That's on the coaches. There are a lot of levers to pull with players at times, but when you lose your team you've pulled all the wrong ones. Quitting is an indictment of a coaching staff. [/QUOTE]