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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 5060739, member: 966"] No, I said I didn’t remember it. It’s right there! But, above, yeah, I said the experience people had is theirs to keep and a Men In Black device to erase memories doesn’t exist. [Did you miss/ignore/or not get that reference?] I disagree with almost all of the rest…. Enforcement is certainly related to deterrence. Enforcement of anything is related to deterrence. If enforcing “moral rules” is stupid, then it seems you are saying morality itself is an invalid concept and I wonder how you would parent children. Not sure that any of this is actually a ‘morals’ issue, but that’s another conversation. Not everything is the same as everything else. Baseball is its own thing with its own nuances. I don’t, though, understand a position that then encourages cheating by saying it’s wrong or invalid to punish only those who got caught. If you have rules of any kind—and sports are based on them—then you have to enforce the ones you discover. The ones you don’t know about in the moment are lost, just like you can’t go back to review a basketball game and penalize the travels and goaltender and hacks the officials missed. Not sure, either, that the HOF is “a joke.” I think this, as with the disputed JB wins totals, are matters that different people hold at different levels of importance. The HOF for me is a ceremonial, librarial matter. It is not gospel or law or immutable truth. It’s a piece of jewelry. While it’s nice for someone to work toward it and achieve induction, whether they do or not is pretty insignificant to me, personally. I’d rather have known roids players out of it because the HOF should be, IMO, a symbol, representing people who did the right things the right way. It’s for kids—more than anything. It’s a handshake line after a game. That it represents something doesn’t mean that it IS something. There’s a difference, and I would always prefer to err on the side of propriety, honor, fairness, and not commercial interests, notoriety, and celebrity. Cheaters cheat the game and the fans. Ignoring that just because they all couldn’t be caught is what I would call “stupid.” [/QUOTE]

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