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Message: [QUOTE="CIL, post: 958464, member: 22"] I agree to an extent, but amongst most fitness gurus bench press is starting to go by the wayside as a measurement of total body strength. Guys with longer reaches and arms also are at a major disadvantage due to the further distance the weight has to travel. I would think the correlation between RB upper body strength and speed or NFL success is very low. There's tons of studies available on correlations and NFL successes. They found nothing. One of the studies actually showed that the 40 time had a small negative correlation to success. I honestly think the only reason they do it anymore is to appease folks like us -- huge $$$ in it. As for the power clean, guys like us you probably shatter a spine -- but every one of us do it. [/QUOTE]