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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 2064975, member: 1969"] I would have Clemson above us as well. ACC Record by itself is a meaningless number --- it's the entire body of work. Of course the lower or better the ACC W/L record the worse / better your individual results will look in key games. While we have more top 25 wins, they have more in the 26-100 category (including quality road and neutral wins) and no two less bad losses. But the margin is close enough that it totally swings if we beat them tomorrow. [/QUOTE]