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Message: [QUOTE="cuseinseattle, post: 2359085, member: 2504"] I think one of the issues is that Kissel was on the staff as the director of ops and helped fab with the paper. UNC had counselor steer kids but the basketball staff wasn't doing it. Boeheim was responsible for Kissel even if he didn't know in the eyes of the NCAA. Roy isn't held responsible for people on the academic side. This really just comes down to the fact we are so bad at cheating it's unbelievable. [/QUOTE]