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Message: [QUOTE="Fly Rodder, post: 249572, member: 2133"] Kris was a solid talent that had tantalizing potential but never lived up to maybe somewhat optimistic projections (as one poster put it, the Carmelo Stick). At the same time, though, Bobby Knight loved the kid and Knight knows a thing or two about basketball players. Offensively, Joseph had all the talent needed, but I think the concussion and knee injuries slowed Kris down and he leaned too heavily on the three. Defensively, he was slow to react on perimeter shooters and could get beat. I don't know how many threes I watched him leak too far away from the shooter and then be caught flat footed when the offense made the pass to the shooter. Against OSU he was beaten badly for an easy dunk and was yanked immediately afterwards. Great kid, good career, and a solid player, but he was the also the victim of optimistic expectations. [/QUOTE]