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JP Tokoto

He's doing it smartly by not signing with an agent. He's ridiculously athletic you have to imagine teams will give him a pass on some of the other aspects of his game.
 
Iman Shumpert skyrocketed up draft boards after his workouts. Shumpert did so due to his defense and overall athleticism which shot up his potential. I could see a similar situation with Tokoto for sure.
 
He will be drafted.

Not a great shooter but he's a sick athlete and could turn into a solid guy off the bench.
 
He can probably thank Kawhi, as well as Tony Allen, because a lot of teams are going to take shots at super athletes who can guard multiple positions. Especially those bigger wing guys who are quick enough to possibly stay with guys like Curry and Irving.
 
Surprised nobody has brought up the idea that he knows the hammer is coming to UNC and wants to get out before playing in a wasted season.
 
GoHamSU said:
He will be drafted.

Not a great shooter but he's a sick athlete and could turn into a solid guy off the bench.
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This is the type of kid who will ended up getting drafted by San Antonio, and then two years from now will be the best defensive stopper / role player in the league.
 
CusefanATL said:
Do you blame the process or the decision making?
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The process is terrible, but that's what it is. If they say your draft position will never get higher, then you have to go. Even if you are not ready. Go back to 1995, John Wallace was told that he would be mid to late first round as a Jr. He went back to school, had an incredible Senior season, led a band of misfits to the championship game and got drafted in the same position as he would have as a Jr. I know he had some attitude problems, but if you saw what I saw on the court, he was a stud who improved his draft position (in an ideal world).
CJ would have been a second rounder if he left after his Jr year. Came back to Cuse, led team in scoring and to a 25-0 start and didn't get drafted. He was preseason ACC player of the year and had a more than solid season and didn't get drafted. Yes, I know there are other factors, but the message is if you stay in school too long, we don't wantcha.
Kids will only think about that first contract (and not the long term) if the system continues in this way.
 
I'm not sure Fair would have been drafted after his junior year either.

The system is fundamentally broken because kids are realizing that they can get paid to play basketball (somewhere) and still maybe make the NBA versus playing for free and maybe making the NBA. They can't get a 10-day NBA contract or a tryout while sitting in classes. I think it's on the NBA for forcing aspiring professionals to go play college ball and colleges need to get out of trying to be professional sports.

The NCAA needs to work with the NBA to fix the mess that this has become.
  • The NBA needs to run their own feeder minor league system
  • Allow high school kids in the draft, if not, you're ineligible for three years (play in Europe or college).
  • The colleges need to let the players (who don't go to the NBA/D-League out of high school) get professional guidance (e.g., allow them to attend NBA camps/combines during their junior year, speak with scouts and agents, have a job fair for crissakes.
If they get the top-10-20 recruits every class out of colleges and in the pros where they belong, I think both systems will be better off. Less turnover at programs, less incentive to game the system by bribing recruits, HS/AAU coaches, shoe companies, etc. One and dones would be over with, UK could no longer just reload every year with the next crop of fab frosh, and programs would would value experience and coachbility more since they would be have their recruits for the long haul and wouldn't be dependent on borrowing an NBA player for a year to make a championship squad (I think teams would look more like Wisconsin and less like UK).

Also fix refereeing.
 
Fly Rodder said:
I'm not sure Fair would have been drafted after his junior year either.

The system is fundamentally broken because kids are realizing that they can get paid to play basketball (somewhere) and still maybe make the NBA versus playing for free and maybe making the NBA. They can't get a 10-day NBA contract or a tryout while sitting in classes. I think it's on the NBA for forcing aspiring professionals to go play college ball and colleges need to get out of trying to be professional sports.

The NCAA needs to work with the NBA to fix the mess that this has become.
  • The NBA needs to run their own feeder minor league system
  • Allow high school kids in the draft, if not, you're ineligible for three years (play in Europe or college).
  • The colleges need to let the players (who don't go to the NBA/D-League out of high school) get professional guidance (e.g., allow them to attend NBA camps/combines during their junior year, speak with scouts and agents, have a job fair for crissakes.
If they get the top-10-20 recruits every class out of colleges and in the pros where they belong, I think both systems will be better off. Less turnover at programs, less incentive to game the system by bribing recruits, HS/AAU coaches, shoe companies, etc. One and dones would be over with, UK could no longer just reload every year with the next crop of fab frosh, and programs would would value experience and coachbility more since they would be have their recruits for the long haul and wouldn't be dependent on borrowing an NBA player for a year to make a championship squad (I think teams would look more like Wisconsin and less like UK).

Also fix refereeing.
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Imagine the effect that would have on recruiting. College coaches wouldn't have a clue who was going to come to school. I agree the system needs to be fixed, I'm just wondering if this would blow it up worse for a while.
 
CusefanATL said:
Do you blame the process or the decision making?
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Both, I think the process needs to be better, but these kids just aren't making good decisions. Lets take Chris for an example. You care coming off a torn acl, and a bad season, and there is a good chance you might not even get drafted, and if you come back for a year you could be a lottery pick, why in the world are you leaving?
 
CuseFaninVT said:
Imagine the effect that would have on recruiting. College coaches wouldn't have a clue who was going to come to school. I agree the system needs to be fixed, I'm just wondering if this would blow it up worse for a while.
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I could be mistaken, but I thought a few boards had him as a second rounder.
 
CuseFaninVT said:
Imagine the effect that would have on recruiting. College coaches wouldn't have a clue who was going to come to school. I agree the system needs to be fixed, I'm just wondering if this would blow it up worse for a while.
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Sure they would. It works for baseball and there are a ton more HS kids going in the draft. Most of the coaches already know who is going to be one and done. Pretty much every one here knew that McCullough wasn't planning on staying before he even committed. I think there's probably 10-12 recruits every year that only going to college because they have to and would declare for the draft in a heart beat if they could. Once a player commits to college though, they're there for three years. Coaches would have a lot more stability in programs.
 
they wont do whats right to fix the game- that simple
 
Fly Rodder said:
Sure they would. It works for baseball and there are a ton more HS kids going in the draft. Most of the coaches already know who is going to be one and done. Pretty much every one here knew that McCullough wasn't planning on staying before he even committed. I think there's probably 10-12 recruits every year that only going to college because they have to and would declare for the draft in a heart beat if they could. Once a player commits to college though, they're there for three years. Coaches would have a lot more stability in programs.
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It kind of works for baseball. I don't know if you live in a college baseball town, but where I live you hear, "We thought he was coming here, but decided to sign a pro contract" every year. I think you're right in that it could probably work out to be better than what we have now, but it wouldn't be perfect.
 
Briancuse said:
Both, I think the process needs to be better, but these kids just aren't making good decisions. Lets take Chris for an example. You care coming off a torn acl, and a bad season, and there is a good chance you might not even get drafted, and if you come back for a year you could be a lottery pick, why in the world are you leaving?
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Yeah. CM has little to do with the process and all to do with decision making.
 
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