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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 1877872, member: 485"] Not really. Marrone's juco players are long gone at this point. The problem is more the weak 2013 class (hurt by Marrone's departure), the defections/non-quals from Shafer's first full class (2014), and a few casualties in his otherwise good 2015 class. We needed Marrone's juco players to return to respectability, but as they left, we needed to replace them with quality recruits, upgrade year to year, and use the slots effectively. We have numbers (82 scholarship players) but not the quality needed. Shafer rarely sought JUCO players, and Dino brought only a few into BGSU. Compare Louisville which has a good number of JUCOs. [/QUOTE]