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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 3959399, member: 474"] but was it Vanilla? we took several deep shots and they were open just like Ohio.. We completed one so thats trending better.. Really it was the 2 fumbles and the 2-3 penalties they killed the drives not the play calling.. Now in the 4th when Rutgers had the lead it was gonne be a slog. But we drove4-5 other times to where we could score and had things happen.. Once we ran out of time because more thing happened.. Its not like we were rutgers who started with the ball outside the 40 almost all game and did nothing we drove down to the 30 at least 4 times and got 1 score and 3 of those times we stopped ourselves. We missed the FG thats 10 we got the phantom holding call, just give us the Fg if nothing else we had the fumble give us just the Fg there. Thats 16 pts ugly yes but a far different game as Rutgers would have been the team chasing us down 13+ at the half. [/QUOTE]