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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 275405, member: 363"] Are you saying that those without advanced degrees who excel at their craft should not be able to make over $100K? I assure you that if they are in the trades making that type of money in CNY, they are also in a supervisory position and also working plenty of OT. However if they are in one of the local trade unions I would find that to be an exception not a rule. Difficult for who to make money on jobs? I know what my labor cost and I figure it. Sure, many of these developers don't want to pay union wages but if they were actually paying legit non union people then that I can live with. I can compete with the few LEGIT non union companies out there and I can assure you they are very very few. That said, The guys that work for us are company people first and union people second, I can assure you of that so there is a difference. People tend to equate education with compensation? Not even remotely accurate when it comes to construction. There is a contractor in Syracuse who I will never name that doesn't even have a GED, who is tremendously talented, built his business from the ground up and I can assure you is an extremely wealthy man, extremely and yes his biz is union as well. Another guy much like that in Ithaca as well, owns more property down here than anyone. I would rather pay for experience and level headed supervisors over college education in the construction industry anyday. To many guys in construction who want to run projects from I Phones and text messages these days. Lots of educated idiots for sure, I say that as one of them but who also has a union carpenter as a partner who has the business savy of a Wharton graduate when it applies to our business and I mean that. Construction sometimes doesn't apply to the rest of the business world either. [/QUOTE]

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