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Message: [QUOTE="dollarbill44, post: 3961212, member: 686"] Typically, you can't throw a tight spiral with bad mechanics. But, lots of guys mechanics break down when they are in game situations. I actually thought Shrader threw pretty well for his first passes in two years. The pass to Taj that got broken up at the last instant was an absolutely beautifully thrown ball. The overthrow was a beautiful looking pass, as well, he just needed a scoche more air under it. NFL qbs make that same mistake - they get excited at how open it is and rush it. As for whoever keeps saying he throws a duck - I don't know what they're talking about, unless that means something different nowadays. TD threw more ducks (i.e. wobbly pass that goes way off line or way short) than Shrader. [/QUOTE]