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Justin Anderson: He Gone!

Interesting.
Without him they're just not a very good offensive team
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Another personnel hit for one of our rivals!!! Keep em coming.
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1st of all... this was my 1st thought as well. So I am not chastising YOU with this next sentence.

But i do find it funny that when CM makes a bad decision to go pro that we get opinionated and want to advise CM and get all high and mighty like we have CM's best interest at heart.

But (if) when Justin Anderson makes a worse decision we all think "keep em coming"
 
CusefanATL said:
1st of all... this was my 1st thought as well. So I am not chastising YOU with this next sentence.

But i do find it funny that when CM makes a bad decision to go pro that we get opinionated and want to advise CM and get all high and mighty like we have CM's best interest at heart.

But (if) when Justin Anderson makes a worse decision we all think "keep em coming"
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I wish nothing but bad things for the programs we play against. This would be a bad thing for Virginia, so it's a good thing for us.

No Syracuse fan has a vested interest in Anderson like we did in McCullough, so it makes sense that we don't care that he's possibly throwing his future away. Even looking at it from a pure perspective, rather than one influenced by CMac's impact on next season's team, it makes sense that Syracuse fans would disapprove of McCullough's decision because there's some level of a connection with him. There's no emotional connection with opposing players.
 
CusefanATL said:
1st of all... this was my 1st thought as well. So I am not chastising YOU with this next sentence.

But i do find it funny that when CM makes a bad decision to go pro that we get opinionated and want to advise CM and get all high and mighty like we have CM's best interest at heart.

But (if) when Justin Anderson makes a worse decision we all think "keep em coming"
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I love the free enterprise. Good decision by Mr Anderson. He wasn't replicating that 3 point % next year.
 
Brooky03 said:
I wish nothing but bad things for the programs we play against. This would be a bad thing for Virginia, so it's a good thing for us.

No Syracuse fan has a vested interest in Anderson like we did in McCullough, so it makes sense that we don't care that he's possibly throwing his future away. Even looking at it from a pure perspective, rather than one influenced by CMac's impact on next season's team, it makes sense that Syracuse fans would disapprove of McCullough's decision because there's some level of a connection with him. There's no emotional connection with opposing players.
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Let's be honest here. No one cares because CMac is "potentially throwing his life away." People care because of potential wins Cmac could help generate in a Cuse uniform. It really has little to do with him as a person.
 
docsu said:
Let's be honest here. No one cares because CMac is "potentially throwing his life away." People care because of potential wins Cmac could help generate in a Cuse uniform. It really has little to do with him as a person.
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Speak for yourself. Your quote was off, and I don't think he's throwing his future away, but I do think he's costing himself money and making a poor choice. You're right that I don't like it because of the impact to the program. I also don't like it because I think he is personally making a mistake. If we had a OAD surprisingly commit in CMac's place, I'd still say he made a bad choice and I don't agree with it. This is how I know I don't just disapprove because of the impact to the program.
 
Brooky03 said:
Speak for yourself. Your quote was off, and I don't think he's throwing his future away, but I do think he's costing himself money and making a poor choice. You're right that I don't like it because of the impact to the program. I also don't like it because I think he is personally making a mistake. If we had a OAD surprisingly commit in CMac's place, I'd still say he made a bad choice and I don't agree with it. This is how I know I don't just disapprove because of the impact to the program.
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CMac was in my view the one example of someone who should stay based on the current thinking of the day. Coming off of last year, I cannot see how anyone would say he would risk being exposed if he came back. He displayed all of the physcial measureables but showed very little of the developed skill set. If anyone thought he was worth drafting on potential alone based solely on the limited sample size this year, I could not see him hurting himself if he came back at least not in sense of his draft status. He would have nowhere left to go but up or at the very least still be the guy worth drafting due to his size, length and athleticism.

This guy clearly was one that should've seen another year of college as a worthy investiment in himself and his ability to bring home big money. Instead he will mire in the D-league for much less money, perhaps he will make it big with his second contract - but he may have been there much sooner with some investment.
 
docsu said:
Let's be honest here. No one cares because CMac is "potentially throwing his life away." People care because of potential wins Cmac could help generate in a Cuse uniform. It really has little to do with him as a person.
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I think that is partially true, I am hoping that things work out for Chris, but my life isn't going to be affected if it doesn't. At the end of the day everyone is in it for themselves a little bit.
 
Bud Poliquin once said on his radio show that SU fans are "hypocrites" because they claim to be concerned about the player's future and advise him on what best for him when they really just want him to stay and win games for SU.

My feeling is that SU fans will freely admit that what they want is for players to stay and win games for SU. But they realize that the player's decision will be made based what he perceives to be his self interest. Therefore they come up with arguments that jumping to the NBA at this time is not in their best interests. If we have a player like Carmelo who should obviously move on, we don't begrudge him that. But when a guy tears up a knee and is rehabing after playing only 16 games, it seems logical to us to come back for a year and play his way into the lottery rather than hoping he can get a guaranteed contract in the second round, so we say so.

I don't think that's hypocritical.
 
So he is or isn't leaving?

(I already know our opinions on SU players leaving will be much different than guys from other teams)
 
SWC75 said:
Bud Poliquin once said on his radio show that SU fans are "hypocrites" because they claim to be concerned about the player's future and advise him on what best for him when they really just want him to stay and win games for SU.

My feeling is that SU fans will freely admit that what they want is for players to stay and win games for SU. But they realize that the player's decision will be made based what he perceives to be his self interest. Therefore they come up with arguments that jumping to the NBA at this time is not in their best interests. If we have a player like Carmelo who should obviously move on, we don't begrudge him that. But when a guy tears up a knee and is rehabing after playing only 16 games, it seems logical to us to come back for a year and play his way into the lottery rather than hoping he can get a guaranteed contract in the second round, so we say so.

I don't think that's hypocritical.
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This exactly. Carmelo was a no brainer and I never heard anyone complain about him leaving. Their have been many others though whose decisions were not so clear cut. One could actually make the argument coming back for another year of amateur ball could pay major dividends. Many have been in and out of the league in a matter of only a few years and in hind site may have made a different decision if they could do it all over again. Much of my irritation is not with the kid, it's with the system and the vultures who profit from it by influencing these kids to make decisions that may not be in their best interests over the long term and yes because as a side effect it hurts the college game which I love much more then the NBA.
 
SWC75 said:
Bud Poliquin once said on his radio show that SU fans are "hypocrites" because they claim to be concerned about the player's future and advise him on what best for him when they really just want him to stay and win games for SU.

My feeling is that SU fans will freely admit that what they want is for players to stay and win games for SU. But they realize that the player's decision will be made based what he perceives to be his self interest. Therefore they come up with arguments that jumping to the NBA at this time is not in their best interests. If we have a player like Carmelo who should obviously move on, we don't begrudge him that. But when a guy tears up a knee and is rehabing after playing only 16 games, it seems logical to us to come back for a year and play his way into the lottery rather than hoping he can get a guaranteed contract in the second round, so we say so.

I don't think that's hypocritical.
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I think it's a fallacy to critique decisions of players we don't know, who come from backgrounds most of us couldn't begin to understand.

Our maybe I just like playing devils advocate.
 
From my perspective, I don't think Anderson made a bad decision, and I also don't think it hurts Virginia as much as some say. It's worth remembering how much a lot of folks were saying the losses of Joe Harris and Akil Mitchell would hurt UVa after last year. I'm not convinced, just yet, that not having Justin Anderson and Darion Atkins is somehow worse. Anderson was a dynamic athlete who could defend multiple positions. Those elements of his game will be missed. On the other hand, I thought the offensive problems Virginia had after his injury had more to do with team chemistry, and redefining roles within the team. Among other things, Anderson's ball handling was a little more than merely suspect, and his decision making was like a double-edged sword. Sometimes the results were spectacular; sometimes they were considerably less so. I also believe that Bennett brought the frosh along very nicely, giving them meaningful minutes as they developed. I expect to see both Shayok and Wilkins contribute more next year, and everyone in Charlottesville is anticipating what Darius Thompson will add. Regardless, it is worth remembering that UVa went 7-1 without Anderson, and the one loss was the result of a score by the most unlikely of players at Louisville. Personally, I feel pretty good about next year!
 
73CAV said:
On the other hand, I thought the offensive problems Virginia had after his injury had more to do with team chemistry, and redefining roles within the team. Among other things, Anderson's ball handling was a little more than merely suspect, and his decision making was like a double-edged sword. Sometimes the results were spectacular; sometimes they were considerably less so. I also believe that Bennett brought the frosh along very nicely, giving them meaningful minutes as they developed. I expect to see both Shayok and Wilkins contribute more next year, and everyone in Charlottesville is anticipating what Darius Thompson will add. Regardless, it is worth remembering that UVa went 7-1 without Anderson
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keep telling yourself that.
y'all gonna be offensively challenged
 
pearl31 said:
keep telling yourself that.
y'all gonna be offensively challenged
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So are other teams, Duke is losing all of their great scores, we're losing our best and most consistent scorer. Losing Rak is a bigger loss than any team in the ACC is dealing with as we don't have the same caliber player coming in to replace him.
 
73CAV said:
From my perspective, I don't think Anderson made a bad decision, and I also don't think it hurts Virginia as much as some say. It's worth remembering how much a lot of folks were saying the losses of Joe Harris and Akil Mitchell would hurt UVa after last year. I'm not convinced, just yet, that not having Justin Anderson and Darion Atkins is somehow worse. Anderson was a dynamic athlete who could defend multiple positions. Those elements of his game will be missed. On the other hand, I thought the offensive problems Virginia had after his injury had more to do with team chemistry, and redefining roles within the team. Among other things, Anderson's ball handling was a little more than merely suspect, and his decision making was like a double-edged sword. Sometimes the results were spectacular; sometimes they were considerably less so. I also believe that Bennett brought the frosh along very nicely, giving them meaningful minutes as they developed. I expect to see both Shayok and Wilkins contribute more next year, and everyone in Charlottesville is anticipating what Darius Thompson will add. Regardless, it is worth remembering that UVa went 7-1 without Anderson, and the one loss was the result of a score by the most unlikely of players at Louisville. Personally, I feel pretty good about next year!
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Your team was hurt by his injury and downplaying losing him now is putting your head in the sand. You would be way better with him coming back. The rest of your post is your heart talking. All fans do it except two3zone.
 
ORRange said:
Your team was hurt by his injury and downplaying losing him now is putting your head in the sand. You would be way better with him coming back. The rest of your post is your heart talking. All fans do it except two3zone.
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Not sure if I'm glad that you realize I don't post with my heart and don't put my head in the sand or need some self reflection when it comes to sports and ignore everything and keep smiling. lol Thank's for noticing either way though. haha
 
two3zone said:
So are other teams, Duke is losing all of their great scores, we're losing our best and most consistent scorer. Losing Rak is a bigger loss than any team in the ACC is dealing with as we don't have the same caliber player coming in to replace him.
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We also have a top 5 recruiting class, and a mcdonalds all american coming back who didn't play this year, at rak's position.
 
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