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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 4268863, member: 60"] I agree, but he's also brought a title to each team he's been on (granted CLE was his second stint). I'm with you - I think his overreach has to be the most of all time in terms of influence over an org (maybe what KD and Kyrie have with the Nets now can somewhat compare). KD said out loud, and I'm paraphrasing, that he wouldn't consider, and a lot of other guys wouldn't, playing with him because of the whole circus that came with it. As a coach, I mean, you have to be able to just go along for the ride. The only time that it really ended up ok for the coach in the long run was with Spo and he had Riley's backing, which is probably the only reason why he got to stick around (which was obviously the right choice). [/QUOTE]