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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 742380, member: 652"] While KOIII doesn't post on here anymore I thought I would bring this through breakdown of the rosters when both of the two previous coaches left and let his good perspective shine on this board and plus I would plug his excellent twitter feed for great SU football opinions. [LIST=1] [*] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [IMG]https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/348408861/KingOttoIII_normal.jpg[/IMG] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377117132288311297']9 Sep[/URL] Who left a better roster behind Marrone or GRob? My breakdown: [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377118123226181633']9 Sep[/URL] QB Marrone: Hunt So, Loeb Sr, Wilson Fr GRob: Nassib So, Dantley Sr Advantage: GRob. This is a little TBD as we haven't seen Hunt yet [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377119253033263105']9 Sep[/URL] RB Marrone: Smith Jr, PTG Sr, Morris II Rf, McFarlane Rf, Rene Sr GRob: DC3 Jr, Bailey So, Collier Rf Adv: GRob. Top guys better, less depth [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377120754636054528']9 Sep[/URL] FB/TE Marrone: Cleveland Sr, AAM Jr, Burke Jr, Wales Sr, Parris Rf, Moore Fr, Batton Fr, Provo Fr, Green So [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377120994340511744']9 Sep[/URL] GRob: Nieves Sr, Owen Sr, Provo Jr, Cutler Rf, ARob Sr, Catalina So Adv: Marrone. More depth [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377122717914251264']9 Sep[/URL] WR Marrone: West Jr, Broyld So, Flemming Sr, Kobena Jr, Clark Sr, Funderburke Jr, Hale So, Cornelius Rf, Lewis Rf, Kinder Jr [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377123039537680384']9 Sep[/URL] GRob: Williams Jr, Davis Sr, Lobdell Sr, Sales So, Chew So, Jones So, Lemon Fr Adv: GRob. Both have lots young talent. Mike W unmatched. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377124351272710144']9 Sep[/URL] OL Marrone: Mackey Sr, Hickey Jr, Trudo So, Foy So, Robinson So, Palmer Rf, Knapp Rf, Emerich Rf, Anyaebunam Sr, Burton Fr, Miller So [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377124643020107777']9 Sep[/URL] Correction on TE Batten & Moore not Marrone guys [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377126473087201280']9 Sep[/URL] GRob: McKenzie Sr, Bart Jr, Baumbach Sr, Rosner Sr, White Jr, Speller So, Meldrum Jr, Allport So, Phillips Fr, Pugh Fr, Lowery So, Lepak So [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377126765358891008']9 Sep[/URL] Adv: Marrone but closer than expected. Depth biggest diff. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377127476293419008']9 Sep[/URL] Overall the O is pretty similar. We don't have a Mike Williams or a DC3 but we didn't have a Hickey back then. Marrone did leave more depth. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377127586238713857']9 Sep[/URL] Have to say that O talent is a push though. Marrone didn't leave it better than when he got it. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377128976835018752']9 Sep[/URL] DT DM: Bromley Sr, Crume Jr, Jones Sr, Raymon So, Sloan So, Coleman Rf GRob: Art Sr, Lewis Jr, Perkins Jr, Tribbey Jr, Haney Jr, Boatman So [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377129204954849280']9 Sep[/URL] Adv: GRob. Marrone better size but Art Jones is Art Jones. [*] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377130046994915329']9 Sep[/URL] DE DM: Welsh Jr, Micah Jr, Thompson Rf, Johnson Fr, Trejo Jr, Manley Rf, Simmons So GRob: Jones So, Marinovich So, Kimmel Sr, Battles Jr [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377130528731701249']9 Sep[/URL] Adv: Push. More depth Marrone. Don't know how Sugar Bear or Zeke will turn out. Could end up like Chandler. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377132005554528256']9 Sep[/URL] GRob: Smith Jr, Hogue Jr, Vaughan So, Gillum Jr, Stenclik Sr, Kimmel So Adv: Marrone. Too much depth difference even though.. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377131904689901568']9 Sep[/URL] LB DM: Spruill Sr, Davis jr, Lynch Jr, Luke Jr, Kirkland Jr, Vigille So, Hodge Fr, Coker Sr, Washington Rf [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377132091202224128']9 Sep[/URL] Smith & Hogue waaay better starters than what Marrone left. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377132193220284416']9 Sep[/URL] Also back to FB/TE make that a push as I forgot Stevens for GRob. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377133159512432640']9 Sep[/URL] CB Marrone: Lyn Sr, Anderson Sr, Reddish Jr, Whigham So, George So GRob: Merk Jr, Kev Jr, Nico Sr, Mayes So [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377133216286527488']9 Sep[/URL] Adv: Marrone a lot better and depth to boot. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377133862930751488']9 Sep[/URL] S DM: Wilkes Sr, Esk So, Morgan So, Desir Jr, Kelly Jr GRob: Holmes Jr, Suter Jr, McKinnon Jr Adv: Marrone. Depth again. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377133906291486720']9 Sep[/URL] WR forgot Graham for GRob [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377134944151031808']9 Sep[/URL] Front 7 is pretty much a push. GRob starters are better but Marrone has a lot more depth. However the DBs are a lot better and deeper [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377135112774619137']9 Sep[/URL] It is funny that this is the best DB unit we have had in years yet they are struggling so bad. Gotta blame coaches there. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377135776321921024']9 Sep[/URL] K/P Marrone: Krautman SR, Norton So, Fisher Jr, Dixon So GRob: Long Jr Adv: Marrone. We have a mess currently but at least we have bodies. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377136056870518784']9 Sep[/URL] No doubt the program is in better shape than when Marrone took over. He stabilized the program & changed the culture/perception [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377136499575115776']9 Sep[/URL] He also added a lot of quality depth. But in terms of starting talent we are worse in many areas. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377136675647799297']9 Sep[/URL] We lack playmakers like DC3, Mike Williams, Darrell Smith, Hogue, Mike Holmes. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377137031580618752']9 Sep[/URL] Overall only area of improvement is at DB. Every other unit is on par. I give Marrone credit for what he did but not what he thinks he did. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377137295091957760']9 Sep[/URL] He acts like he rebuilt the program & left it in good shape. We should all be grateful & bow to him. Reality is he stabilized the program... [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'] [B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377137782214254593']9 Sep[/URL] But still left lot work to be done. Also left in major year of transition: lost talent & ACC change. Timing couldnt have been worse. [*][URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld'][B]King Otto[/B] ‏@[B]KingOttosWorld[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KingOttosWorld/status/377138232430841856']9 Sep[/URL] Lots of holes in roster. Lack playmakers. Took all of the staff. He didnt finish the job & left Shafer in tough spot. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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