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Message: [QUOTE="xc84, post: 5664075, member: 1526"] In some ways this is a product of the current environment, paying players and the total lack of loyalty from teams toward players and players toward teams. Kiyan is a decent freshman averaging 9 ppg with too many expectations from himself, his father and fans. I think he shows signs of potential. In the old days, he could sit more, learn and improve. By the time his junior year comes, he could be a really good player. In today’s world there is no patience from any stakeholder and no loyalty. Too much pressure to be mature on day one but maturity involves seasoning. All that said, Red will be gone next year and Kiyan will likely be gone too. I am losing interest in college sports… it is no longer about college students. [/QUOTE]