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[QUOTE="jordoo, post: 1270393, member: 569"]
I agree that Red had a great senior season: 16.7 points, 6.1 assists, 4.8 rebounds 45%FG 37%3PT all career bests! 183assisst to 115 turnovers however which on the board these days would be picked apart like crazy. His great senior season also puts into perspective that the rest of his career was not great when compared to a lot of our other PG's. Give Jonny 4 years as a starter for instance and he'd have broken Sherm's mark for assists.

Jonny as a sophomore put up very similar numbers: 16.6 points, 6 assists, 2.7 rebounds, 46%FG, 31.7%3PT. 254assists to 129 turnovers. Obviously the big difference is that Red shot much better from 3 and was a better rebounder but he was a 4th year starter and Jonny as a sophomore was clearly a more proficient distributer and just as good a scorer. Agreed about Jonny being perhaps the best athlete we've had at PG although you can't deduct points for that ;-) and MCW is close athletically. I remember going to the @ Seton Hall game when Jonny was a freshman and he actually caught and finished a backdoor baseline lob from Donte. One of my biggest impressions from that game was that Jonny was by far the smallest but most athletic guy on the court. The other was that Kong absolutely owned the defensive glass in the first half. He must have gotten every miss that came his way.

Scoop is a harder guy to rate because as a Senior he was splitting time with Triche and Dion in a loaded backcourt but IMO I feel fans under rate Scoop more than any of our PG's

Thanks for the response.
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