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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 206933, member: 837"] I see Joseph's handle a bit differently. I don't remember having many true 3s that handled the ball better. I mean, Shumpert didn't, Nichols didn't, Burgan probably had a better handle but turned the ball over a ton, Blackwell was sort of a 3 and he was a turnover machine, Melo was criticized for his handle that year as well. I look at Joseph and think he has a fine handle. He runs into problems, IMO, with all the dribbling he does. Two hard dribbles to his right and a pull-up from 15 feet are all he needs to do. All the between the legs stuff and cross-overs are window dressing and he's not at that level. but generally he does have the ability to get to the rim with the dribble as well as handle in the open floor. That's really a skill set some of our 2-guards never had (Janulis, Cipolla, Duany ...). [/QUOTE]