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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 149676, member: 837"] I agree with all of this. My original point was just more that I don't see him as a star and I question any metric that rates him that way (perhaps the fatal flaw being per minute stats which are great for evaluating production but subject to being misused when people just apply them to 35 mpg or so). I too think he has made some progress with the floaters and drives to the hoop and I wouldn't rule him out for a big senior year either, particularly if Scoop and Waiters are gone, which seems likely. But I think you hit the nail on the head: solid shooter who brings some other pretty solid attributes to the table and fills a valuable role on this team. My problem is when posters try to make him more or less than that. [/QUOTE]