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[QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 3389140, member: 363"] Yeah I think that was the worst thing he did, once he was pretty much exposed he carried on the charade for almost another few years. Landis, Hamilton, the french reporter and the other ex teammate along with his wife pretty much had him dead to rights. On top of that he threatened and intimidated anyone who testified against him. Once Floyd Landis one the tour you know it was a complete sham. Doped to the gills. He was a middle of the road road/ and mountain bike pro for years prior. In addition, if he quits after 3-4 they may not have gone back and tested the old urine or blood sample for EPO form years prior. Complete egomaniac. The original sample they got him on was 8-9 years old I believe, once they figured out they could test for EPO he went to straight up blood transfusions, risky to say the least. That's when Hamilton failed a test because they put somebody else's blood back in his system. Armstrong blackballed him years before he testified against Lance as well. All that said, he was still an incredible once in a lifetime cyclist and athlete in a tremendously dirty game. It was impossible to win the tour de france without doping in that era and probably still is. He also raised a ton for cancer and did a ton with Livestrong but don't get me wrong I think the guy is one of the bigger D bags ever [/QUOTE]
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