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Message: [QUOTE="Fly Rodder, post: 5284431, member: 2133"] What [B][U]specific [/U][/B]things did Red do last season that made a team of misfits and ne'er-do-wells into a 20-win team and better than JAB's squads but look like he's never coached a game before this season with his players? IMO, I chock it up to a modestly-talented team and natural variance luckily tipped into the positive side of things instead of the negative. They went 5-2 in 2 or fewer possession games. They lost games by an average of 17.5 points and won them by an average of 9.7. That tells me that they were probably a little bit better than a .500 team and got lucky a few times. PS: I love people thinking Brown could barely play D1 yet somehow he's "only" the sixth man on the no. 4 team in the country and arguably the ACC DPOTY. Meanwhile Red overpaid for an overweight point-center because NC State went to the final four with one. [/QUOTE]