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Last two games in context

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Average 40 per (I’m rounding up), defense hold to 2 or less scores in two or more consecutive games.

Going back to ‘87 this has happened:

2018, Wagner 62-10, FSU 30-7, Finished 10-3 ranked 13

2013, Wagner 54-0, Tulane 52-10, Finished 7-6

2010, Maine 38-14, Colgate 42-7 Finished 8-5

2001, Pitt 42-10, Temple 45-3, Finished 10-3, ranked 14

1998, Temple 38-7, Miami 66-13, Finished 8-4, ranked 25

1997 ECU 56-0, Ruttie 50-3, Temple 60-7, WVU 40-10, finished 9-4, ranked 21

1996 VT 52-21, Ruttie 42-0, Pitt 55-7, BC 45-15, finished 9-3, ranked 21

1992 Temple 38-7, Pitt 41-10 finished 10-2, ranked 6

1987 PSU 48-21, Colgate 52-6 finished 11-0-1 ranked 4

Let’s hope history repeats
 
Average 40 per (I’m rounding up), defense hold to 2 or less scores in two or more consecutive games.

Going back to ‘87 this has happened:

2018, Wagner 62-10, FSU 30-7, Finished 10-3 ranked 13

2013, Wagner 54-0, Tulane 52-10, Finished 7-6

2010, Maine 38-14, Colgate 42-7 Finished 8-5

2001, Pitt 42-10, Temple 45-3, Finished 10-3, ranked 14

1998, Temple 38-7, Miami 66-13, Finished 8-4, ranked 25

1997 ECU 56-0, Ruttie 50-3, Temple 60-7, WVU 40-10, finished 9-4, ranked 21

1996 VT 52-21, Ruttie 42-0, Pitt 55-7, BC 45-15, finished 9-3, ranked 21

1992 Temple 38-7, Pitt 41-10 finished 10-2, ranked 6

1987 PSU 48-21, Colgate 52-6 finished 11-0-1 ranked 4

Let’s hope history repeats

So - how did PSU score 21?
Was there a pick-6 some sort of kick or punt return for a TD?

I do remember the opening of that game (who couldn’t??!!) and that we curb stomped them into the Stone Age.

But I don’t recall how they scored.
 
How about 10-10 in the red zone - Opponents 0-1. Have we ever had those stats in any two game series?
I was looking at that today as well.

The turnaround in efficiency is unreal. The fact that in two games opponents have driven the ball to the redzone and ran through it 3 other times. All four instances on four long plays. There hasn’t been one sustained drive into SU territory.

SU on the other hand has had 10 multi-play drives and most of the scores have been in the close redzone, which has been a big hurdle for this program consistently with a couple of exceptions. On 22 possessions SU has 13 scores and 5 punts. Over 20 possessions the opponents have 3 scores, 9 punts, 5 turnovers, and gave up the ball twice on downs.

Complete dominance
 
So - how did PSU score 21?
Was there a pick-6 some sort of kick or punt return for a TD?

I do remember the opening of that game (who couldn’t??!!) and that we curb stomped them into the Stone Age.

But I don’t recall how they scored.
As I recall, the Orangemen dominated and demoralized the shocked and completely overwhelmed and entitled diaper dandies from the pedo valley. I believe that the score was SU 41-7 at the half and that old JoePedoPa went to the b10 a couple of years later in 1990 not wanting to risk the embarrassment of facing our Orangemen at the dome 1 for 1 ever again. We kept them in check the rest of the game even as we gave up a couple of meaningless scores late because our great coach Mac did not want to rub there noses in it during the 2nd half. It was a great follow up of our physical manhandling of highly regarded #1 Nebraska in 1984. But this victory in every way, as I am sure all here in this forum would understand was more satisfying in every way because we sent them off to the b10 with their tails between their legs not wanting to face us straight up home and home ever again. OORRAAHHH!! for the mighty men of valor, “The Boys from Syracuse”!
 
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So - how did PSU score 21?
Was there a pick-6 some sort of kick or punt return for a TD?

I do remember the opening of that game (who couldn’t??!!) and that we curb stomped them into the Stone Age.

But I don’t recall how they scored.
They scored 2x late. We had our backups in the whole 4th quarter, iirc. I may be wrong because I was a delirious freshman.
 
Average 40 per (I’m rounding up), defense hold to 2 or less scores in two or more consecutive games.

Going back to ‘87 this has happened:

2018, Wagner 62-10, FSU 30-7, Finished 10-3 ranked 13

2013, Wagner 54-0, Tulane 52-10, Finished 7-6

2010, Maine 38-14, Colgate 42-7 Finished 8-5

2001, Pitt 42-10, Temple 45-3, Finished 10-3, ranked 14

1998, Temple 38-7, Miami 66-13, Finished 8-4, ranked 25

1997 ECU 56-0, Ruttie 50-3, Temple 60-7, WVU 40-10, finished 9-4, ranked 21

1996 VT 52-21, Ruttie 42-0, Pitt 55-7, BC 45-15, finished 9-3, ranked 21

1992 Temple 38-7, Pitt 41-10 finished 10-2, ranked 6

1987 PSU 48-21, Colgate 52-6 finished 11-0-1 ranked 4

Let’s hope history repeats
Bump, ran across this post looking for something else.

So far this year, Colgate 65-0, WMU 48-7, Finished? Ranked?

2022. Did it twice, Lviile 31-7, Uconn 48-14; Wagner 59-0, NCSt 24-9. Finished 7-6

As long as the injury bug doesn’t hit, this team feels closer to those P teams than Shafer in 2013.

Regardless of final record one thing those teams all had in common, winning record and bowl games.
 
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Bump, ran across looking for something else.

So far this year, Colgate 65-0, WMU 48-7, Finished? Ranked?

2022. Did it twice, Lviile 31-7, Uconn 48-14; Wagner 59-0, Finished 7-6

As long as the injury bug doesn’t hit, this team feels closer to those P teams than Shafer in 2013.

Regardless of final record one thing those teams all had in common, winning record and bowl games.
Geez, just looked at the date of your original post, but it ages well! Yes, interesting data. When you get into numbers/data like we’ve put up so far this year, it does start to transcend the competition. I think everyone is curious about what we’ll look like this Saturday night but these are good omens. Can Ellis/More/Petry or some combination thereof hold up the right side of that line? It kinda all comes down to that. I’ve been nervous about what I’ve seen from the line despite our numbers but I’m encouraged by the return of Ellis (possibly). It’s too bad we couldn’t have him and Wolabalah together (or Bleich and Wolabalah if he swaps with Ellis). That probably would’ve been the most solid combo. In any case, we’ll see who they march out there on Saturday. If they can protect, hopefully these early numbers translate like your historical figures.
 
So - how did PSU score 21?
Was there a pick-6 some sort of kick or punt return for a TD?

I do remember the opening of that game (who couldn’t??!!) and that we curb stomped them into the Stone Age.

But I don’t recall how they scored.

I got out the 1988 SU Yearbook, (as they were called then).

We scored on the first play from scrimmage on the famous Don McPherson to Rob Moore 80 yard bomb. Tim Velsing kicked the PAT and also 37 and 35 yard field goals later in the quarter to give us a 13-0 lead. The route really was one when Tommy Kane reached behind himself in mid-air to steal the ball from State D-back and catch a 29 yard TD pass from McPherson 4:23 into the second quarter. The crowd noise, already ignited by the Moore catch, rose to unprecedented levels and was clearly impacting both teams.

SU scored again with 38 seconds left in the half. on a perfectly run option by Donny, who walked into the end zone, already celebrating as he got there. It was 27-0 at the half. Donny hit Tommy with a 27 yard TD 6:02 into the third and then ran 20 yards for another score two minutes and 42 seconds later.

With the score 41-0 and just 21:16 left in the game, Coach Mac decided to send in the reserves - against Penn State. Big mistake. Gary Brown rean 80 yards to break up the shut out with 9:03 gone in the third quarter. Tackle Rich Schonewolf blocked a punt, scooped it up and ran 20 yards for another score 5:45 into the fourth to make it 41-14. Reserve QB Tom Bolt hit Ray Roundtree with a 59 yard scoring pass two minutes and 2 seconds left. Penn State was going to make the greatest comeback of all time and beat us for the 17th time in a row.

Coach Mac sent his starters back in and they pounded down the field with time-consuming drive finished off with one yard run from Michael Owens to make the final score SU 48 Penn State 21 with only 9 seconds to go in the game.

We ran for 174 yards and passed for 341 for a total of 515 yards and 23 first downs. Donnie Mac had 375 yards total offense and accounted for 5 touchdowns, Penn State 273 yards, 11 first downs and 2 offensive scores on two plays totaling 139 of those yards.
 
I got out the 1988 SU Yearbook, (as they were called then).

We scored on the first play from scrimmage on the famous Don McPherson to Rob Moore 80 yard bomb. Tim Velsing kicked the PAT and also 37 and 35 yard field goals later in the quarter to give us a 13-0 lead. The route really was one when Tommy Kane reached behind himself in mid-air to steal the ball from State D-back and catch a 29 yard TD pass from McPherson 4:23 into the second quarter. The crowd noise, already ignited by the Moore catch, rose to unprecedented levels and was clearly impacting both teams.

SU scored again with 38 seconds left in the half. on a perfectly run option by Donny, who walked into the end zone, already celebrating as he got there. It was 27-0 at the half. Donny hit Tommy with a 27 yard TD 6:02 into the third and then ran 20 yards for another score two minutes and 42 seconds later.

With the score 41-0 and just 21:16 left in the game, Coach Mac decided to send in the reserves - against Penn State. Big mistake. Gary Brown rean 80 yards to break up the shut out with 9:03 gone in the third quarter. Tackle Rich Schonewolf blocked a punt, scooped it up and ran 20 yards for another score 5:45 into the fourth to make it 41-14. Reserve QB Tom Bolt hit Ray Roundtree with a 59 yard scoring pass two minutes and 2 seconds left. Penn State was going to make the greatest comeback of all time and beat us for the 17th time in a row.

Coach Mac sent his starters back in and they pounded down the field with time-consuming drive finished off with one yard run from Michael Owens to make the final score SU 48 Penn State 21 with only 9 seconds to go in the game.

We ran for 174 yards and passed for 341 for a total of 515 yards and 23 first downs. Donnie Mac had 375 yards total offense and accounted for 5 touchdowns, Penn State 273 yards, 11 first downs and 2 offensive scores on two plays totaling 139 of those yards.
I watched SU practice that week and new the minute rob lined up we were running that play.
 
I got out the 1988 SU Yearbook, (as they were called then).

We scored on the first play from scrimmage on the famous Don McPherson to Rob Moore 80 yard bomb. Tim Velsing kicked the PAT and also 37 and 35 yard field goals later in the quarter to give us a 13-0 lead. The route really was one when Tommy Kane reached behind himself in mid-air to steal the ball from State D-back and catch a 29 yard TD pass from McPherson 4:23 into the second quarter. The crowd noise, already ignited by the Moore catch, rose to unprecedented levels and was clearly impacting both teams.

SU scored again with 38 seconds left in the half. on a perfectly run option by Donny, who walked into the end zone, already celebrating as he got there. It was 27-0 at the half. Donny hit Tommy with a 27 yard TD 6:02 into the third and then ran 20 yards for another score two minutes and 42 seconds later.

With the score 41-0 and just 21:16 left in the game, Coach Mac decided to send in the reserves - against Penn State. Big mistake. Gary Brown rean 80 yards to break up the shut out with 9:03 gone in the third quarter. Tackle Rich Schonewolf blocked a punt, scooped it up and ran 20 yards for another score 5:45 into the fourth to make it 41-14. Reserve QB Tom Bolt hit Ray Roundtree with a 59 yard scoring pass two minutes and 2 seconds left. Penn State was going to make the greatest comeback of all time and beat us for the 17th time in a row.

Coach Mac sent his starters back in and they pounded down the field with time-consuming drive finished off with one yard run from Michael Owens to make the final score SU 48 Penn State 21 with only 9 seconds to go in the game.

We ran for 174 yards and passed for 341 for a total of 515 yards and 23 first downs. Donnie Mac had 375 yards total offense and accounted for 5 touchdowns, Penn State 273 yards, 11 first downs and 2 offensive scores on two plays totaling 139 of those yards.


We did the same thing at Michigan in 1998 when we had a 38-7 lead that became 38-28 before we knew it. Never relax against powerhouse programs. They will have the pride to keep playing and their second and third teams are better than yours.
 

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