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[QUOTE="FrancoPizza, post: 2815371, member: 5195"]
Where did I say they were the literal equivalent?  This is block-headed logic just trying to stir the pot.   I'm comparing styles and results in the context of making the post-season.  We're barely sneaking into the field of 68.   About 68 teams also go bowling.   Shafer even made a bowl one year.   It's not a crazy comparison.   I don't get the over-sensitivity.

I'm not assuming we're on the bubble yet, BUT if someone guaranteed us a 12 seed right now I would take it instead of letting the season play out.   For all we know OSU will crap the bed or it might be the one win that the committee uses to justify our inclusion.

My "agenda" is wanting the program to win, to be fun to cheer for, and be a post-season contender.  I have concerns that our HC will stay around too long, as history often repeats itself in these situations with HOFers.  I'd wager thousands of fans also feel the same way.   What's your "agenda"?   Defending the program's direction until it hits the iceberg?   Denigrating posters because you don't like their beliefs?

Last I checked 5 seasons goes back to 2014-15, but throw in an extra year to suit your argument.  They went to the FF and they had some great wins, but that offense was brutal at times.  It was the beginning of what we have seen for 5+ years now.

They weren't a bubble team officially, but they were playing like one down the stretch.   Optics over statistics.

I'm not talking facts.  I'm talking optics and feelings.  Those things matter more to me than statistics.   Go ahead and claim that I'm butchering facts to puff up your chest.
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