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Message: [QUOTE="Purple Haze, post: 2576048, member: 5843"] I think you're right - even with the #6 RPI Penn has lost 4 of their last 5 making them a bubble team at best. Couple interesting games coming up that will help sort things out. Navy is in a must win situation - a win against Syracuse puts them in the conversation as an at large with Bucknell (who they beat). And I have to believe the loser of the Rutgers/Penn State game is likewise done. Right now, here's how I see it: Top 4 seeds: Maryland, Albany, Duke, Cornell (because I think they win out and beat Yale in the Ivy) Last 4 in: Virginia, (winner of Rutgers/Penn State), Bucknell, Notre Dame Last 4 out: Villanova, Penn, Penn State, Navy [/QUOTE]