@ LB?

[BillSU]

I thought it would be interesting to see how we compare to the current 10 best NFL Linebackers in Height, Weight, listed the 40 Speed of the NFL players and their number of bench press reps, BPR, completed at the combine. Unfortunately I can't compare 40 speed with our group or BPR. We seem a bit light in Jones and Kpogba when compared to NFL players and that matters when it comes to on field performance and draft potential. It should matter as it did this month with Coleman and Robinson who are both the size and weight for their positions and run decent 40 times. It's nice to see 4 SU players in the draft and all four possibly being taken. I added Ray Lewis just for comparison sake. He played for Miami and as a freshman was an All American. They, (NFL personnel), thought he was short for ILB but he was smart had intensity, physicality, aggressiveness, heart and all the things that the NFL looks for in a LB. Being 240 didn't hurt either. The numbers below were the players measurements at the combine.

Blake Martinez – Packers 6'2” 237 4.71 NA

Jamie Collins – Pats 6'3” 255 4.64 19 BPR

Nick Kwiatkoski – Bears 6'3” 243 4.73 19 BPR

Kyle Van Noy – Pats 6'3” 230 4.71 NA

Danny Trevathian – Bears 6'0” 231 4.84 18 BPR

Devondre Campbell – 6'3” 234 4.58 16 BPR

Nick Vigil – Falcons - 6'2” 236 4.72 15 BPR

Jon Bostic – Skins – 6'1” 246 4.59 22 BPR

Cory Littleton – Rams – 6'3” 227 4.73 17 BPR

Joe Schobert – Browns – 6'1” 229 4.74 22 BPR

Ray Lewis – Ravens – 6'1” 240 4.58 NA

Average HT = 6'2” WT= 237 40 = 4.64


Our LB Group

Mikel Jones – 6' 211 So

Lee Kpogba – 6'1”219 So

Stefon Thompson – 6' 238 Fr

Juan Wallace - 6'2” 227 Jr

Geoff Cantin-Arku – 6'4” 230 So

Kadeem Trotter – 6'2” 226 RJr

Tyrell Richards – 6'4” 236 Rjr

From Thompson to Richards we don't miss by much size wise - let's see if they have Lewis's intensity that he carried for 17 years in the NFL and other attributes that will make them a truly special group.
P.S. Is anyone concerned about the effectiveness we will have at the LB position going into the 2020 season?

 

[Deleted member 7047]

Call me "Old Fashioned," but I think being a murderer disqualifies a person from being a role model for anyone. I don't want anyone to have a murderer's "intensity."

 

[corpjet]

As a Bengals fan I can speak of Nick Vigil and he has been awful for us since we drafted him mid rounds from Utah State. LB'ers these days aren't just about stuffing the run, they need to cover in space.

 

[SoBristol]

I thought it would be interesting to see how we compare to the current 10 best NFL Linebackers in Height, Weight, listed the 40 Speed of the NFL players and their number of bench press reps, BPR, completed at the combine. Unfortunately I can't compare 40 speed with our group or BPR. We seem a bit light in Jones and Kpogba when compared to NFL players ...
From Thompson to Richards we don't miss by much size wise - let's see if they have Lewis's intensity that he carried for 17 years in the NFL and other attributes that will make them a truly special group.
P.S. Is anyone concerned about the effectiveness we will have at the LB position going into the 2020 season?

We have senior experience in the DL and high end talent in four spots in the secondary. So, the LB position is the most interesting unit, with a new DC implementing a 3-3-5 scheme. Jones and Kpogba were the cream of the 2019 cycle — presumably they will add some more muscle by September. There is potential in this group, and at least they will be surrounded by experience in the DL and DBs.

 

[Cuse#1]

I thought it would be interesting to see how we compare to the current 10 best NFL Linebackers in Height, Weight, listed the 40 Speed of the NFL players and their number of bench press reps, BPR, completed at the combine. Unfortunately I can't compare 40 speed with our group or BPR. We seem a bit light in Jones and Kpogba when compared to NFL players and that matters when it comes to on field performance and draft potential. It should matter as it did this month with Coleman and Robinson who are both the size and weight for their positions and run decent 40 times. It's nice to see 4 SU players in the draft and all four possibly being taken. I added Ray Lewis just for comparison sake. He played for Miami and as a freshman was an All American. They, (NFL personnel), thought he was short for ILB but he was smart had intensity, physicality, aggressiveness, heart and all the things that the NFL looks for in a LB. Being 240 didn't hurt either. The numbers below were the players measurements at the combine.

Blake Martinez – Packers 6'2” 237 4.71 NA

Jamie Collins – Pats 6'3” 255 4.64 19 BPR

Nick Kwiatkoski – Bears 6'3” 243 4.73 19 BPR

Kyle Van Noy – Pats 6'3” 230 4.71 NA

Danny Trevathian – Bears 6'0” 231 4.84 18 BPR

Devondre Campbell – 6'3” 234 4.58 16 BPR

Nick Vigil – Falcons - 6'2” 236 4.72 15 BPR

Jon Bostic – Skins – 6'1” 246 4.59 22 BPR

Cory Littleton – Rams – 6'3” 227 4.73 17 BPR

Joe Schobert – Browns – 6'1” 229 4.74 22 BPR

Ray Lewis – Ravens – 6'1” 240 4.58 NA

Average HT = 6'2” WT= 237 40 = 4.64


Our LB Group

Mikel Jones – 6' 211 So

Lee Kpogba – 6'1”219 So

Stefon Thompson – 6' 238 Fr

Juan Wallace - 6'2” 227 Jr

Geoff Cantin-Arku – 6'4” 230 So

Kadeem Trotter – 6'2” 226 RJr

Tyrell Richards – 6'4” 236 Rjr

From Thompson to Richards we don't miss by much size wise - let's see if they have Lewis's intensity that he carried for 17 years in the NFL and other attributes that will make them a truly special group.
P.S. Is anyone concerned about the effectiveness we will have at the LB position going into the 2020 season?

No absolutely not. I really think that the line backer group is going to be a strength of our defense next year with some of these guys we got and it was really big that some of these young guys got some playing time and experience last year so will help them a great deal coming into the season. I think this is the best linebacker group we found a long time to be honest

 

[sufandu]

I don't know the details about how this defense works, but it sounds like it's based in attacking. Hopefully that means less thinking and reacting and more downhill right at the snap. If that's the case our guys that may not be that big may be able to take advantage of their speed and won't get caught a step behind because they're reading the play before moving.

 

[CusefanATL]

I thought it would be interesting to see how we compare to the current 10 best NFL Linebackers in Height, Weight, listed the 40 Speed of the NFL players and their number of bench press reps, BPR, completed at the combine. Unfortunately I can't compare 40 speed with our group or BPR. We seem a bit light in Jones and Kpogba when compared to NFL players and that matters when it comes to on field performance and draft potential. It should matter as it did this month with Coleman and Robinson who are both the size and weight for their positions and run decent 40 times. It's nice to see 4 SU players in the draft and all four possibly being taken. I added Ray Lewis just for comparison sake. He played for Miami and as a freshman was an All American. They, (NFL personnel), thought he was short for ILB but he was smart had intensity, physicality, aggressiveness, heart and all the things that the NFL looks for in a LB. Being 240 didn't hurt either. The numbers below were the players measurements at the combine.

Blake Martinez – Packers 6'2” 237 4.71 NA

Jamie Collins – Pats 6'3” 255 4.64 19 BPR

Nick Kwiatkoski – Bears 6'3” 243 4.73 19 BPR

Kyle Van Noy – Pats 6'3” 230 4.71 NA

Danny Trevathian – Bears 6'0” 231 4.84 18 BPR

Devondre Campbell – 6'3” 234 4.58 16 BPR

Nick Vigil – Falcons - 6'2” 236 4.72 15 BPR

Jon Bostic – Skins – 6'1” 246 4.59 22 BPR

Cory Littleton – Rams – 6'3” 227 4.73 17 BPR

Joe Schobert – Browns – 6'1” 229 4.74 22 BPR

Ray Lewis – Ravens – 6'1” 240 4.58 NA

Average HT = 6'2” WT= 237 40 = 4.64


Our LB Group

Mikel Jones – 6' 211 So

Lee Kpogba – 6'1”219 So

Stefon Thompson – 6' 238 Fr

Juan Wallace - 6'2” 227 Jr

Geoff Cantin-Arku – 6'4” 230 So

Kadeem Trotter – 6'2” 226 RJr

Tyrell Richards – 6'4” 236 Rjr

From Thompson to Richards we don't miss by much size wise - let's see if they have Lewis's intensity that he carried for 17 years in the NFL and other attributes that will make them a truly special group.
P.S. Is anyone concerned about the effectiveness we will have at the LB position going into the 2020 season?

I cant imagine Jones and Kpogba arent 225 by the time the season starts.

 

[Redrum]

Richards is going to be a stud this year

 

[money3189]

Add 6'5 226 and 6'3 204. Via Cuse.com Redshirt freshmen Steve Linton and Ishmael Goulbourne joined the linebacking corps in the offseason ...

 

[Trueblue25]

Juan Wallace is a name to pay attention to.

 

[sufandu]

I'm assuming the LBs in this system play more like the LBs in a traditional 3-4 than any system we've run in a long time. It seems to me that the tweener guys that aren't quite big enough to be DEs but have pass rush ability would/will be great here.

 

[PhatOrange]

Linton will add flexibility to be able to move up to DE form OLB if required to stack the LOS. This defense flip flops a lot btw 335, 43 and 52.

 

[SUalldway]

Richards is going to be a stud this year

Drove me crazy how little run Richards got last year. One reason I was glad that Ward got pink slipped.

 

[Nick44]

Drove me crazy how little run Richards got last year. One reason I was glad that Ward got pink slipped.

It drove me crazy how little run many of the freshman got last year. When bowl contention was ruled out, every freshman on scholarship should have gotten playing time. If less than 4 games it’s basically “free development.” Courtney Jackson didn’t play a second, I don’t believe.