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Message: [QUOTE="SmilinBob, post: 358301, member: 857"] That's not true but I do believe that we as a fan base better start showing up for these games because this is embarrassing. If you care about the football program show up and stay to the end. I understand some had to leave because they had little kids and one passed out dead asleep right in front of us but this stupid upstate vs downstate or townie vs alum thing is juvenile. All I see from these threads are people drawing lines in the sand and it reminds of the moronic liberal vs conservative debates and I never see anyone win those things, you just believe what you believe and you just give up listening to what the other side is trying to say. This is about helping the program and Marrone and his staff must be the best recruiters in the country because if they can recruit talent with this type of support, they are doing one hell of a job. [/QUOTE]