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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1777406, member: 1969"] I never claimed that the NBA and the one and done rule was not crushing the NCAA. I absolutely agree with that perspective. It really is. A two and done would really help I initially responded to this comment you made "If it's all about the NBA then why not just take the players out of HS. What argument can you make against it?" I made several points as to why the NBA prefers the one and done rule over the HS rule. It is why they made the move in 2004 - the fact they made the change is pretty good proof they prefer it No?. And I am of the opinion if it was not for the Players Association and other legalities that they would be fine with the 2 and done as well by now. You then took issue with the fact that the NBA uses the NCAA. I just pointed out that every pro league uses other leagues for development. I then posted why there are more downward issues between the NBA and the NCAA CB is getting hurt more (lack of compensation (fact). lack of NCAA refusing to let in drafted players play in the NCAA (fact), and an opinion that first round players and teams are learning that they can develop just as well in the NBA as the NCAA (opinion which I supported with facts) Isn't that the way a message board is supposed to work. You state an opinion, and you make arguments or facts that support the opinion. It doesn't mean the opinion is correct, but your supporting points can still indeed be facts. If you are going to claim that all my bullet points are opinions, please go ahead and show me which if the following is not a fact. [LIST] [*]gets summer league time against better competition than the NCAA [*]preseason court time against better competition than the NCAA, [*]Some NBA minutes, [*]Extended practice time with assistant coaches who will put in plenty of time with you to work there way up [*]At times an integrated D-League schedule of about 10-20 games, whereby it still spends most of the time in the big team. When teams will not practice much for a while, they get sent to the D-League to get minutes. [*]better trainers, better facilities, better diets, [*]more time to work independently on your strength [*]more practice time to work independently on your Skills (Note - the last 3 points are heavily dependent on the commitment and the "relative" maturity of the player. [/LIST] Onc can still think the NCAA route is better for development as you can become more of the man against inferior players. But it does not mean any of the bullets above are not facts. [/QUOTE]

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