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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1422788, member: 2585"] You can't be serious. Are you sure you're not holding an anti-Shafer bias and that 2012 colored everything else orange and happy in the Marrone era? Our O was still atrocious much of the time with Hackett. It just was. Not last year bad - but we were not consistently good on O. The numbers say we were consistent on D. That's how that stuff is calculated and why season long data points paint a pretty good picture. - I think the ISIS stuff is overblown, frankly. But if that's where he lost you, that's where he lost you. I'm actually getting more hopeful for this season. I trust our D coaches and think Lester's O is going to finish 50-60. But this is a nice end point for our discussion ;). I should say - we both want the same results. Sorry if I've driven you nuts with my positivity. It's just who I am. [/QUOTE]