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Message: [QUOTE="cusestudent, post: 280919, member: 1225"] I look at it this way. Smith and Davis came in as RBs and were not anywhere near developed at LB, the same can be said about our OL and DL (Art Jones wasn't all that great and he was our best DL). We went 8-5 based on a lot of development by guys on D that had never contributed before Marrone got here, Carter came back healthy, and Nassib developed into our first decent QB in a long time. With a little luck involved we got to a bowl game and played a D that was even more terrible than our D during the GROB years. 8-5 is still 8-5 but you're making it sound like we played 13 BCS teams and 9 of them being from the SEC. I understand the point you're trying make, but I think you're wrong to make that point given the facts of the situation. GROB had nothing to do with that time other than recruit some of them, and he proved he couldn't develop the talent. Well Marrone did, and that why we went 8-5. [/QUOTE]