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Message: [QUOTE="orangenirvana, post: 262610, member: 156"] Gotcha. You don't think Kinder could still develop into a quality starter? I know he doesn't have the greatest arm but he's still just a sophomore and hasn't been given an opportunity in a real game setting. I am pretty encouraged to hear the read-option was used a bit with Kinder and Broyld. Maybe Marrone and Hackett really aren't married to the 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust offense. Yeah, that concern is warranted imo. All the QB's have been stagnant over the last 3.5 years. At the same time, how much potential did any of these players really have coming in? Nassib - A lightly-recruited 2-star Loeb - Syracuse was his only Quarterback scholly offer Kinder - A lightly-recruited 2-star It's not like Syracuse was battling powerhouse programs for these kids. Maybe the staff is getting the most out of them, they're just limited. Or maybe coaching is the problem. Who knows. [/QUOTE]