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Message: [QUOTE="tep624, post: 645817, member: 430"] It's one thing to make the argument that the NFL is culpable because team physicians looked the other way and told players that they were ok to play when they weren't. It's one thing to say that the NFL and the Players association should have better long term plans for the players, including retirement plans and healthcare plans. I'm on board with that. To me that is part of the cost of the product that they put on the field. But being naive to the potential for severe injury (again, what I was responding to was the assertion that 50 years ago people had no idea that if you repeatedly slammed your head into something you could have some long-term problems), and getting coerced back onto the field under the guise that you're healthy are two different things entirely. And yes with the studies that have come out recently and the specific emphasis the media has placed on head injuries in the NFL, there naturally has been more research done. But that aside, logically, if you repeatedly damage any part of your body, you're likely to have long term effects as a result of it. I guess for me, I'm just dumbfounded as to why anyone would be naive to that. We've seen boxers with slurred speech and obvious symptoms of brain damage since the late 70's and maybe even before that. A sport where you suffer repeated blows to the head. It's very evident from that alone that if you suffer repeated blows to the head, you're going to have some long-term problems. Then we have a sport where guys are suffering concussions from repeated head on collisions running at full speed and we're shocked that there are long-term effects to that. And I'm not backwards on the joint and cartilidge issues either. I would expect the average person not to expect their joints or cartilidge to wear out from doing normal things like running, laterally moving, pivoting, jumping, sliding, squatting, lifting etc. I would however expect the average person to expect some long term problems if they keep slamming their head into something. Joints and cartilidge were made to serve that purpose, your head isn't. [/QUOTE]

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