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Looking at rebounding ahead of UH

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So I know the big conversation is around offensive rebounding going into the Houston game, especially after giving up 19 offensive rebounds to WVU. The Houston fans are convinced this is going to be the key to ruling the day.

Let's take a look though.

Of WVU's 19 offensive rebounds, 3 were team offensive rebounds off a tip/block out of bounds so that equates to 16 offensive rebounds that were live ball. Of those dead all scenarios, 2 pts were scored.

Of those 16, 7 occurred within just two possessions and there were no points allowed during those two possessions.

Of the remaining 9, there were a total of 9 second or third chance points scored.

Defensively we contested and denied WVU at the rim or closed out quickly on kick outs. This is a stat that is not thrown out there. You never want to give an opponent too many chances but the fact is that when you drill into it, it's a far less scary statistic vs WVU. I haven't looked at UNC game 2 but I would warrant that the numbers break down somewhat similar.

Our defense is so active and rotating so well that the second and third chances are not resulting in points and often are clustered into fourth or fifth chances skewing the data.

This is where our shot blocking numbers matter too. We reduce both second chance points and eliminate the shot statistically. They may have put up 70 shots vs our 52 but only 64 made it up.
 
AG should have a field day given it's a smaller team that rebounds by just pure motor as much as anything. It's completely up his alley. Just needs to show up and be into it mentally.
Do you think he has a problem with the jitters? It’s hard to understand how up and down he’s been. Something gets into his head, I am sure.
 
there are 2 kinds of offensive rebounds.. one is the classic get it an score, if you give up 2-3-4 in one series thats not so bad.. the other is the get it and kick it out to shooters. I would much better give up the pts on occasion to the put back.. one thing its only 2 pts, but also it doesnt get someone into feeling good and we know 1 made three often leads to 2-3 as a team starts feeling better about its shooting.. a couple volleyball possessions adds to in the stats but it also cooks the books..
 
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there are 2 kinds of offensive rebounds.. one is the classic get it an score, if you give up 2-3-4 in one series thats not so bad.. the other is the get it and kick it out to shooters. I would much better give up the pts on occasion to the out back.. one thing its only 2 pts, but also it doesnt get someone into feeling good and we know 1 made three often leads to 2-3 as a team starts feeling better about its shooting.. a couple volleyball possessions adds to in the stats but it also cooks the books..

And of late we are giving up big numbers but it's a lot of fluff vs getting crushed in second and third chance pts.
 
Do you think he has a problem with the jitters? It’s hard to understand how up and down he’s been. Something gets into his head, I am sure.

Really not sure. To me it seems that this is decided by AG before the game. He either comes in like a madman and burying every 3 in sight, blocking shots and grabbing rebounds or he goes 1 on 1, half heartedly plays D and disappears to the bench. It's so odd.
 
Jesse could be a big factor off the bench as far as rebounding goes. In the games where we got dominated on the glass earlier in the year, particularly at UNC, he barely played. My guess is that JB will use him to try to contest in the middle and keep Houston off the offensive glass.
 
Jesse could be a big factor off the bench as far as rebounding goes. In the games where we got dominated on the glass earlier in the year, particularly at UNC, he barely played. My guess is that JB will use him to try to contest in the middle and keep Houston off the offensive glass.

Agreed. He will need to play to wall up on D and use his reach to get his hands on rebounds early mainly. When he does this it helps the backline cleanup on the boards for sure.
 
One thing to watch for will be overcollapsing on the defensive backboard and if that gives up wide open 3s or not...

I think it would work out better if the team doesn't collapse and stays home on shooters...in that case though cant be get dominated on the glass.
 
One thing to watch for will be overcollapsing on the defensive backboard and if that gives up wide open 3s or not...

I think it would work out better if the team doesn't collapse and stays home on shooters...in that case though cant be get dominated on the glass.
But if the shooters crash, I think our guards will have to abandon the three point line and try to get in their way.
 
If a shot is blocked, is collecting the ball after that considered a rebound in the box score?
 
Thanks. Next obscure question: is catching an airball considered a rebound? Or a steal?
 
Really not sure. To me it seems that this is decided by AG before the game. He either comes in like a madman and burying every 3 in sight, blocking shots and grabbing rebounds or he goes 1 on 1, half heartedly plays D and disappears to the bench. It's so odd.
I don’t think he decides this consciously. In the WV game he hit his first shot. He looked happy. We were all happy! Then he began goofing up. He looked really happy at the end of the game as well. I think that, like Buddy, he doubts himself. Buddy should give him a little talking to because once Buddy stopped doubting, he took it to the next level. (Getting over Covid helped.)
 

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