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Looks like the meteor finally touched down on Storrs

"As for the 8 percent graduation rate for players entering UConn from 2003 to 2006, there is no clearer indicator that the UConn basketball program under Jim Calhoun became a minor league franchise for a number of years. Every major college basketball program is one to an extent. Still, UConn basketball was allowed by the school hierarchy to go way too far, get away with too much and the results spoke for themselves: national titles, NCAA recruiting sanctions involving Nate Miles and an academic performance that left the school banned from the NCAA Tournament two years after it had won it all.

Hey, win some national titles, lose some reputation. And if you think conferences like the ACC weren't watching, well, keep drinking the national flag blue Kool-Aid kiddies."
 
cusetown1 said:
Do you know a John Syracuse?
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No but when I first joined this group he was the poster that seemed to have the inside information on the Bernie Fine fiasco so I added that to my signature. I suppose it's probably time to update it.
 
While it's always nice to see a rival (or former rival) embarrassed, these stats have little to do with the schools IMO. All of the power conference schools have massive support services for these players. The blame belongs more to the individual than the program. These low scores mostly occur in men's basketball. The drivers are elite players leaving early for the NBA to earn millions, good players but not NBA caliber making bad decisions to leave early against the coach's and scouts advice, and the much higher transfer rate in in this sport than any other sport. There are very few transfers in football and the non revenue sports. Measuring power conference schools against the NCAA "average" is nonsensical. Players in the mid major conferences are not elite players with pro potential so they're not leaving early.
 
Madbiker said:
While it's always nice to see a rival (or former rival) embarrassed, these stats have little to do with the schools IMO. All of the power conference schools have massive support services for these players. The blame belongs more to the individual than the program. These low scores mostly occur in men's basketball. The drivers are elite players leaving early for the NBA to earn millions, good players but not NBA caliber making bad decisions to leave early against the coach's and scouts advice, and the much higher transfer rate in in this sport than any other sport. There are very few transfers in football and the non revenue sports. Measuring power conference schools against the NCAA "average" is nonsensical. Players in the mid major conferences are not elite players with pro potential so they're not leaving early.
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Don't necessarily disagree that more than 50% of the responsbility of these results are on the players themselves, however, the coaches and academic support staff have more responsibility on this than you apparently are willing to assign them.

Also, doesn't the GSR exclude those who leave the institution in good academic standing (whether that is by transfer or going/attempting to go pro) and it includes those students who transfer in and graduate? Anyone know this for sure?

Cheers,
Neil
 
Madbiker said:
While it's always nice to see a rival (or former rival) embarrassed, these stats have little to do with the schools IMO. All of the power conference schools have massive support services for these players. The blame belongs more to the individual than the program. These low scores mostly occur in men's basketball. The drivers are elite players leaving early for the NBA to earn millions, good players but not NBA caliber making bad decisions to leave early against the coach's and scouts advice, and the much higher transfer rate in in this sport than any other sport. There are very few transfers in football and the non revenue sports. Measuring power conference schools against the NCAA "average" is nonsensical. Players in the mid major conferences are not elite players with pro potential so they're not leaving early.
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Don't forget about kids who get kicked out also. I'm sure yukon can always count on some of those.

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whats that they say about glass houses?
 
Not sure why we need to post stuff like this here - almost every day. Let it go.
 
omniorange said:
Don't necessarily disagree that more than 50% of the responsbility of these results are on the players themselves, however, the coaches and academic support staff have more responsibility on this than you apparently are willing to assign them.

Also, doesn't the GSR exclude those who leave the institution in good academic standing (whether that is by transfer or going/attempting to go pro) and it includes those students who transfer in and graduate? Anyone know this for sure?

Cheers,
Neil
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Absolutely true. As long as the system is what it is the coaches have some responsibility for recruiting players that are going to try to complete their classwork...or, at least, keeping up appearances and doing the absolute minimum required of them.
 
EastCoast2 said:
Not sure why we need to post stuff like this here - almost every day. Let it go.
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I thought they were two pretty interesting columns and thought others might here might be interested. It has nothing to do with letting anything go or glass houses. I don't see anyone here saying that SU doesn't have it's fair share of issues either. Geez, sorry to upset anyone
 
For the love of god, will someone please tell him what they say about glass houses?!?
 
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