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[QUOTE="retro44, post: 1562917, member: 587"]
look, I have always been in Shafers camp and have not called for his firing,Hicks and Reed yes I have. But by these two failing multiples in such a short time being here did not look good to the A.D. AT ALL. Was not sole reason why he got fired,but everything does add up.

Like Coyle said,"there was a lack of leadership" which tells me as Shafer needed to lean on the captains and the captains needed to lean on those two and others. They left this team in a huge void the last two weeks by being suspended.

This was not by far the only reason why he got fired,but this just added to it and I think it needed to be brought out. How often have you read here me getting on the kids asses about anything.Very rare I would say.
A lot here just kept repeating how Dungey and how Shafer played him late in the game to take another brutal hit was a reason,so was this. Selfish act and the next coach has the choice to keep them as this is a character issue. Some can disagree with this,well that's their choice.
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