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Message: [QUOTE="Timonen, post: 2767863, member: 81"] I get it. I certainly don’t begrudge anyone doing what they want and not doing what they don’t want. The notion that we should be martyrs for a football team is goofy (why I didn’t like the “with us or against us” tweet yesterday). I just more people to want to go and want to figure out how to solve for that, free ponys aside. I’ll brag that one of my proudest dad moments was at the Clemson game this year when my seven year old and I sat in the top level, right in the sun. We made ONE trip down to get water (more than I’d do on my own!) and other than that, he was just focused on the game until the very end. He deserved a win for his performance that day. It was amazing and certainly surpassed my expectations...but I’ll say it probably came from a (short) lifetime of subtle training to prepare him for the moment. [/QUOTE]