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Message: [QUOTE="hoopsupstate, post: 4099721, member: 13"] I think we underestimate SU’s infractions. There was academic fraud, non discipline for failed drug testing (not even following your own drug protocol) and illegal payments to students. No matter what you think of the severity of these infractions, they were against NCAA rules. It was also the second offense for the same coach. Would we get the same penalties today? I’m not sure, but to act like nothing happened is burying your head in the sand. There we’re several other minor infractions involving Mike Hopkins too. [/QUOTE]