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Luke Wynn SI with awesome charts breaking Stauskas 3pt attempts and SU's opponents 3pt attempts

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If you don't think Jim Boeheim and the coaching staff aren't looking at this your dumber than Tim Pernotti for not firing Mike Rice in December. Michigan has a lot of talent, but JB isn't going to let Stauskas go 6 for 6 on 3 pt attempts. As long as Keita/Rak play the defense they have in the middle I don't think McGary can beat us from the high post shooting/passing to kill our zone. Burke, Hardaway Jr., Robinson III, will score on us, but our defense will be fine. We just need MCW/Triche to use their height on offense and make the 6 ft Burke guard them in multiple ways with the ball screen, penetrating, and posting up a couple of times.

BTW Luke Wynn ranks the teams.
1. Louisville
2. Michigan
3. Syracuse
4. Wichita State
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-c...l-four-power-rankings/?sct=hp_wr_a4&eref=sihp
 
Saw that yesterday. The big revelation there is that we are only contesting 64% of 3 point shots. On the other hand, teams have only made 8 shots that we have contested in 4 games. That is pretty amazing. Like I said before though, the numbers will even out, a team is bound to hit some contested (and open) shots sooner or later. Think Wisconsin last year.

But I also think our offense is no where near as bad as it is being made out to be. Especially against less efficient defenses, which Michigan has, our offense has shown some explosiveness. I think we are due to for a big shooting night from BT or JS.
 
I think JB may switch Fair and Southerland's placement in the zone just this game. It appears C.J's side the right side is where we haven't had 1 uncontested 3 pt attempt while Southerland's side is one with a bunch of uncontested looks. The top of the key is understandable since one of our guards can be screened and lead to an open 3 pt attempt. I think JB should introduce Fair to Stauskas side and we can see a couple Hakim Warrick type of blocks.
 
Alsacs said:
I think JB may switch Fair and Southerland's placement in the zone just this game. It appears C.J's side the right side is where we haven't had 1 uncontested 3 pt attempt while Southerland's side is one with a bunch of uncontested looks. The top of the key is understandable since one of our guards can be screened and lead to an open 3 pt attempt. I think JB should introduce Fair to Stauskas side and we can see a couple Hakim Warrick type of blocks.
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The players don't have assigned sides. They routinely swap throughout the game and not based on strategy, just court placement when they run back down. They may want to assign a corner to a player for this game, but my understanding is that they normally do not.
 
HoustonCuse said:
The players don't have assigned sides. They routinely swap throughout the game and not based on strategy, just court placement when they run back down. They may want to assign a corner to a player for this game, but my understanding is that they normally do not.
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Agreed. It would be very interesting to see who gives up more uncontested 3s on their side, but that data is not presented here.
 
Alsacs said:
I think JB may switch Fair and Southerland's placement in the zone just this game. It appears C.J's side the right side is where we haven't had 1 uncontested 3 pt attempt while Southerland's side is one with a bunch of uncontested looks. The top of the key is understandable since one of our guards can be screened and lead to an open 3 pt attempt. I think JB should introduce Fair to Stauskas side and we can see a couple Hakim Warrick type of blocks.
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They don't have assigned sides anymore than our guards do. I wouldnt be surprised to see mcw play the to left more though since thats obviously where this kid likes to shoot from and would allow the wing to cheat out more by blocking passing lanes.
 
I'd be willing to bet his definition of "challenged 3" is different than JB's. We are so long that even a shot that is typically "open" is not because of our last-second lunge toward the shooter.
 
Stauskas appears to really like shooting from the corner. I would love for our guard to drop down and trap him early, see if he can pass out of it. Make him pee his pants and not want to venture back to his favorite spot again.
 
jec1521 said:
I'd be willing to bet his definition of "challenged 3" is different than JB's. We are so long that even a shot that is typically "open" is not because of our last-second lunge toward the shooter.
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Some on challenge shots are on challenge by Design. JB would almost want to have been shooters make the first couple 3's because then I'll just keep on shooting

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So basically what those charts show me is that Stauskas IS CJ Fair.
 
The only uncontested make from the area of the floor that Stauskas likes was Davante Gardner's three with ten seconds left in the game.

If this were baseball, it would be scored "defensive indifference."
 
HoustonCuse said:
The players don't have assigned sides. They routinely swap throughout the game and not based on strategy, just court placement when they run back down. They may want to assign a corner to a player for this game, but my understanding is that they normally do not.
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I think for the majority of the time they do have customary sides. For instance after made baskets and when we send one person up to shoot a foul shot with the 4 people back. Those times they have predetermined spots. If there is a turnover and the other team is attempting to run, then I think they may take the other persons natural spot.

I think we will see CJ man the Canadian corner for the most part. I just get the impression that he is extremely coachable. That JB can very subtlely shade/adjust CJ's positioning so that there will be very few uncontested shots. Theoretically, this should enable some type of weakness but good luck having freshman with their first look exploiting it.
 
HoustonCuse said:
Saw that yesterday. The big revelation there is that we are only contesting 64% of 3 point shots. On the other hand, teams have only made 8 shots that we have contested in 4 games. That is pretty amazing. Like I said before though, the numbers will even out, a team is bound to hit some contested (and open) shots sooner or later. Think Wisconsin last year.

But I also think our offense is no where near as bad as it is being made out to be. Especially against less efficient defenses, which Michigan has, our offense has shown some explosiveness. I think we are due to for a big shooting night from BT or JS.
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Definitely agree with this. The Michigan D is underwhelming for a final four team. We should score better than we have since the Montana game
 
CorduroyG said:
yup. if dirty is hot i think we win by double digits, hes gonna get some looks.
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I'd be (pleasantly) surprised with a double figure win. I think it's a tight one either way. Michigan has a great offense, and more size on the perimeter than Indiana.
 
HoustonCuse said:
Saw that yesterday. The big revelation there is that we are only contesting 64% of 3 point shots. On the other hand, teams have only made 8 shots that we have contested in 4 games. That is pretty amazing. Like I said before though, the numbers will even out, a team is bound to hit some contested (and open) shots sooner or later. Think Wisconsin last year.

But I also think our offense is no where near as bad as it is being made out to be. Especially against less efficient defenses, which Michigan has, our offense has shown some explosiveness. I think we are due to for a big shooting night from BT or JS.
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This could be fine. If Michigan is 11/24 I'll be worried. If they're 11/34 that's ok with me.

Wisconsin hit 14 3s, but Burgeron was in foul trouble early and they didn't really have any other way to score except 3s; MIchigan has multiple ways to get the ball in the basket.

I hope they hit their first 3 or 4 3s. If it takes them 35 3s to make 10, we'll win.
 
jdubs30 said:
This could be fine. If Michigan is 11/24 I'll be worried. If they're 11/34 that's ok with me.

Wisconsin hit 14 3s, but Burgeron was in foul trouble early and they didn't really have any other way to score except 3s; MIchigan has multiple ways to get the ball in the basket.

I hope they hit their first 3 or 4 3s. If it takes them 35 3s to make 10, we'll win.
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i got no problem with them hitting their first 3, like marquette did. but their first 3 or 4?? we could be down 15-5 if that happens, no thanks.
 
I think we'll see something similar to how we tried to play Wood for NC State last year where we may shade towards him and focus on being aware of where he is at all times. He won't get many good looks even though this may open up looks for the others. JB understands that hardaway going off is like 3/5 or maybe 4/7 from 3 whereas Stauskas going off is like 7/10 and opens the middle to be attacked.

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I really dont think that contested stat is correct. not one shot from the one corner has been contested? only 6 out of 26 contested corner shots? Do the Centers not count when they run out? When a 5-10 kid shoots over a 6-10 kid thats a far different shot than when a 6-8 kid shoots over a 6-10 kid.

When James shooting I dont think he every worries about contested shots because he has such a high arc but not every shooter shoots like that.
 
ImperialOrange said:
Yeah if CJ shot worse from 3, didn't rebound, block or steal half as well, couldn't attack the rim while jumping out of the gym, was 3 inches shorter and was white he and Stauskas would be very difficult to tell apart.
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*sigh*

Yes, I'm aware that CJ is 100x as versatile as Stauskas. The charts only referenced 3 point shooting, and I was referencing his propensity to take a lot of jump shots from one area. When I see CJ shoot from that baseline, it's like a thing of beauty.
 
Michigan from three point land is much more than just Staukas. Burke and Hardaway are just as good.
 
OrangeTown said:
*sigh*

Yes, I'm aware that CJ is 100x as versatile as Stauskas. The charts only referenced 3 point shooting, and I was referencing his propensity to take a lot of jump shots from one area. When I see CJ shoot from that baseline, it's like a thing of beauty.
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Yeah wasn't intended to bust your balls, moreso the Stauskas love fest since he went off v Florida. Everyone is focused on his 6-6 performance vs Florida to the point that his prior 4 games are forgotten. For the record he was 1-4, 0-4, 1-4, and 0-4 in those games.

Actually here's Stauska's 3 pt fg's vs tourney teams for the year:
1-4
2-3
4-7
0-3
1-4
2-5
1-5
3-5
1-5
2-4
0-4
0-0
2-4
0-4
1-4
0-4
1-4
6-6

I think we're making a mountain out of a mole hill with being worried about his 3 pt shooting. Chances are he'll take 4 shots or less and make 2 or less.
 
wvlax said:
Michigan from three point land is much more than just Staukas. Burke and Hardaway are just as good.
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Actually Burke doesn't shoot that well from 3 vs better defenses.

http://syracusefan.com/threads/um-starter-shooting-vs-tourney-teams.50134/

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/56670/trey-burke

He's more of a volume scorer and padded his 3pt% and fg% against cupcakes. Hardaway Jr, and GR III are more of a concern than Burke or Stauskas for both their size and shooting ability. Aka they can score just as much on far fewer shots.
 
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