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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1688158, member: 1969"] Just to be clear, in no way am I trying to discredit Utah and Oregon in this thread. They are top 15 schools, but not quite in the elite. Like every Pac12 team I think they made be seeded 1 seed line too high, The main thing I am trying to discredit is Lunardi, because of his massive swing on Oregon. While I have taken shots at the Pac12, it's a pretty good conference. But the RPI's that have been generated create an overinflated view of their teams. I do have a problem with the Oregom St Resume specifically however. no road or neutral wins of quality nothing OOC 3 home wins against Oregon, Utah and Cal is there entire cast. I am critical of people who see this as a lock. [/QUOTE]