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Message: [QUOTE="cuse10, post: 2153300, member: 5920"] Dion Waiters didn't need a combine to jump into the lottery. He was one of the best players in America period his sophomore season. Him being picked at 4 was a shock, but if he was anywhere else in the lottery, I wouldn't have been surprised. NBA scouts get it wrong often; look at Tyrus Thomas. He was the same player at LSU and the NBA as he was in high school. At ABCD, my father who coached AAU at the time was sitting with some coaches and made the observation of him not being able to do anything besides dunking and everyone in the immediate area cosigned. Just because they work for a front office doesn't mean they get it right. They just interviewed for the role and got the gig. Vitale was a regular at the Nike Elite camps in the 80s and 90s. Biancardi leads ESPN's high school scouting services. To discredit their words because they aren't in the NBA is foolish. [/QUOTE]