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Message: [QUOTE="anglerman, post: 475099, member: 432"] I agree with much of what you said. I refer to what you describe as the Syracuse complex. People actually beielive it can't happen here or that it sucks here. They believe that we can't achieve great things here but the truth is that we can As far a Marrone it has become clear to me that he was simply not supported by the administration at a very conservative and nonprogressive university. He grew sick of it and left. Doug is the guy that believed that it could happen here but couldn't handle those that didn't. He's one of those very special super high achieving people and unfortunately the university lacks people with the same mindset and ability level. [/QUOTE]