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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 3101170, member: 966"] The first is what i was arguing against, which seemed to be Townie's position. The second is my opinion. So, no, not "made up." Still moot, as my original discussion was not with Moqui. If he's piggybacking on Townie's perspective(s), then the context should remain there. Funny, though, how you all pounced, yet i haven't actually made a single criticism of JB here. This was about the concept of whether it's valid to have criticisms. And whether or not i name coaches who have, at some point or another, done something 'better' than JB did for comparison's sake—that, too, is moot, because those same coaches would still have criticisms of them. The most basic point is that JB is not 'the' best coach, and whoever is 'the' best coach still has (valid) criticism levied against him. I mean, hell, Coach K is constantly discussed on this board as being a 'bad bench coach.' Same with Roy, same with Izzo, et al, ad infinitum... [/QUOTE]