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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 2837804, member: 289"] I remember when Peyton Manning and Ryan leaf went #1-2 in the 1998 NFL draft and people wondered whether the Colts or the Chargers got the better player. That became a very easy question to answer. here's a harder one: In 2004, Eli manning and Philip Rivers both were drafted, Manning #1 by the Chargers and Rivers #4 by the Giants. Manning balked at playing in San Diego and so the two teams traded their drafted quarterbacks. Who got the better part of that deal? Manning started immediately and went on to win two Super Bowls over the mighty Patriots. he's started 228 regular season games and the Giants are 116-112 in those games (.509). He's completed 4755 of 7898 passes (60.4%) for 55,371 yards, (11.6 per completion, 7.0 per attempt) for 357 touchdowns and 237 interceptions (1.5 more TD passes). In the playoffs, he's 8-4 and has completed 242 of 400 (60.5%) for 2,815 yards (11.6/7.0), 18TDs and 9 picks (2.0). [URL="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htm"]Eli Manning Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/URL] Rivers backed up Drew Brees his first two years and became the starter in 2006. He's started 206 regular season games and the Chargers are 117-89 in those games (.568). He's completed 4481 of 6939 passes (.646) for 54,299 yards (12.1 per completion and 7.8 per attempt) for 373 touchdowns and 174 interceptions (2.1 more TDs passes). In the playoffs he's 9-9 and has completed 164 of 272 (60.3%) for 2,165 yards (13.2 per completion and 8.0 per attempt), 11TDs and 9 picks (1.2). [URL="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RivePh00.htm"]Philip Rivers Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/URL] Who got the better of the deal? You could call it a wash since both are likely Hall of Famers. River';s regular season numbers are clearly better. His post season numbers aren't quite as good. His team has won more frequently in the regular season, less frequently in the post season. How many Super Bowl rings would Rivers have had with the Giants? [/QUOTE]

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