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Message: [QUOTE="br801, post: 2840850, member: 932"] Tony Perez never seemed like a Hall of Famer to me during his career, although perhaps that was because he was surrounded by clearly superior talents like Rose, Bench and Morgan. He was a consistently solid hitter, but never great, and was a decidedly mediocre fielder at two positions. Kaline was an excellent hitter and great right fielder, and almost always the best player on his own team. Billy Williams was a consistently strong hitter and good outfielder who rarely missed a game. Both Kaline and Williams were far superior to Perez, IMO. Dawson was a five-tool star with numerous legitimately great seasons. Baines is this generation's Tony Perez. [/QUOTE]