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Message: [QUOTE="creatorsgam, post: 2841529"] Yes, no way of knowing how it would have gone otherwise. Many different scenarios could have played out but none of those involve Rivers winning in NY. That is about as certain as it gets. They would have booted him after 3 seasons, gone a different direction, and who knows? Maybe they win 5 straight SB’s with a different QB and the draft picks they saved. Or maybe Rivers gets traded to a different team and they help him get some jewelry. I get that you love him and apparently everyone knows he is one of the nicest guys in the NFL (anecdotal reports from several people in the Raleigh area suggest this is not the case, but I’ve never met him). I think that is wonderful. For now he is a career loser with nice numbers. Nothing more. I’ll gladly take the L here if you stop quoting me so I’m not tagged on this thread again. I see that this is kind of a big deal to you. [/QUOTE]