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Message: [QUOTE="orangenauburn, post: 5409797, member: 169"] Did I say that? You are competing for proven high end talent with factories that have DEEEEEP NIL, the odds are not in your favor. Lets say in this instance you offer Maraad $800k and are willing to go to $1.2m. Those four programs are coming at him with $1.5m and willing to go higher to secure him. The impact to our program committing the $1.2m is greater than the impact to them committing $1.8m for the same player. You still compete and hope relationships win out, but to cry and whine about the state of the program when you are going head to head with a program that can throw out a financial offer that will dwarf what we can muster, it is just pointless whining. [/QUOTE]